Can 10W solar panel keep a car battery charged or topped up?

By | February 22, 2023

so if you have replaced the battery in your car 
recently you know how expensive they are I mean I   have a video here my recent endeavors of replacing 
my car battery and they're really expensive but   can you actually use free solar energy to keep 
your battery in top shape and prolong the number   of years you use it or let's say you do not 
drive that much and you do not want to come   back to your car and not be able to start it the 
myriad of different solar panels Chargers trickle   chargers and so on so I wanted to buy something 
moderately powerful and rather cheap to keep my   battery topped up so I bought this eco-worthy 10 
watt solar panel trickle charger it's a 10 Watt monocrystalline solar panel with the following 
specs that you can see here the cables are just like   that it doesn't have any connections they they're 
just like that so that's the solar panel it looks   quite nice glass hard aluminum frame it comes 
with a 10 watt solar panel it comes with pwm   10 amps soler charge controller and cables for the 
car battery so but before going on to show you how   this is connected and used I always had a question 
in my mind will this be enough will the sun   actually be enough to charge and keep my battery 
charged so this will be two and a half months test   I will first charge my battery to full using the 
noco genius 5 charger then I'll leave the battery   for 20 days then measure how much the cold 
cranking amps and the European normal en have   dropped using my Foxwell bt100 Pro car battery 
kind of measuring device or car battery status   then I'll charge it again and put it on the solar 
panel pointing West for 20 days and then measure   again cold cranking amps and EN then I'll charge 
it again and keep it on facing south for 20 days   and then measure of course again so this should 
tell me of course me and of course you I'm quite   interested in myself if this will work out keeping 
the battery topped up so this should tell me if   this is good enough if this 10 watt solar panel 
with the 10 amp pwm solar charge controller   is enough to keep the battery topped up first of 
all how do you connect this kit and how to use it   first of all if you have a charge controller always 
connect the battery first to the charge controller   before connecting the solar panel otherwise this 
charge controller might burn out then you connect   the solar panel to the charge controller I would 
not recommend connecting the solar panel directly   as I said if you connect the solar panel to 
the charge controller first this this might   burn out so this is a 10 watt solar panel you 
do not want to overcharge your battery so I   do not recommend connecting directly the solar 
panel to the battery because you will overcharge   your car battery and that's not good for the 
car battery so anything above roughly about 5   Watts you would need a charge controller so this 
charge controller is Eco-worthy 12 volts 10 amps   and it will do bulk charging at 14.4 volts then 
eventually will go to floating charge at 13.6   volts it kind of it will detect the state of the 
car battery and it will keep it there so it will   not overcharge your car battery as far as I know 
most charge controllers will do that so first of   all how do you connect the whole thing this kit 
comes with these crocodile clips for a car battery   the red is positive the black is negative first 
of all on the charge control the first two are for   the solar panel the third and fourth for the 
car battery you kind of undo there is a there   is a screw you probably can't quite see it you 
kind of undo the positive you undo the negative   then put the positive in down here underneath you 
can plug it in the positive to the Third you screw   it in don't tighten it too much I mean you have to 
try that is secure then the black to the negative   you have to check that it's secure then 
you connect it to the car battery so   connect the positive to the positive 
and the negative to the negative   and the load it's green so you can kind of see 
it with this button you can switch it off so   that's connected then you connect the solar panel 
the red is positive the black is negative they're   pretty short you can make them a bit longer 
but you connect it to the positive and the negative   and you can see the solar panel has 
lit the PV and you tighten those just make sure that they're connected and this 
is your connection the solar panel here first you   connect the the battery then the solar panel and 
that is that you can that's it you place your solar   panel on the dashboard and this will charge your 
car battery this is how you connect it so let's   first check how much does this solar panel produce 
so this is now it's UK May time and this will be   short circuit it won't be on load I'll measure it 
with my multimeter not on the load so let's check   if this solar panel can achieve 10 watts measured 
with a multimeter or short circuit so here is me   I waited quite a few days in order to find sun 
to test that's the maximum of the solar panel   so I'm plugging in my multimeter on on amps uh and 
trying to find what the maximum amps are under   full sunshine in in May and it was I saw it once 
0.61 which is the short circuit on the panel but   here it was 0.59 then of course I'll also measure the 
voltages in order to calculate all the the Watts   and the voltages were uh 20.6 I think towards the 
end of the video I got to 21 volts I think it's in   a second I'll move it of course they can move the 
camera away and trying to film it it was having a   shade there so you get 21 volts so in other words 
to calculate wattage of the solar panel and this   is not under load this is a short circuit it's 
21 volts times 0.59 the amps you get 12.4 Watts   so the panel produces more than it was rated it's 
rated 10 watts but it produces 12.4 Watts under   May condition in the UK and the time is roughly 
about half past three in the afternoon so instead   of the simple setup that I showed you from solar 
charge control going to the battery that is down   there and the solar panel coming in I have a bit 
more complex setup but it's nothing really that   complicated basically I've just added measuring 
device that measures volts milliamperes Watts   Watt hours milliampere hours and so on it has 
a shunt in there that's the only thing and it   just have a little board that I can just easily 
move it to the West and the South basically the   positive comes from the solar panel the positive 
and the negative then I have a little fuse   that you can kind of undo that's a little fuse 
five amp fuse so all the components that I've   used in description of the video if you want 
to check them out I have a little switch this   is from toothpaste I think and a little switch 
there there is a splitter of the positive and   negative two so the negative goes so the positive 
and the negative go to this measuring device that   measures milliampere hours watts and so on and 
the negative only one single negative comes out   and goes in the input and from the positive 
goes to the positive the same thing and then   the two negative go out again one another fuse 
5 amp fuse and then they go to the battery so   the battery is there connected and you can see 
that's my device currently measures 12.8 volts   but currently it's six o'clock in the evening so 
it's just volts but the this the milliamperes if   this is less than 20 milliamperes it just doesn't 
show anything that's why it is showing zero volts shows   what hours not volts Watts Watt hours then it 
shows cumulative milliampere hours then the   cumulative hours that this has been running inside 
is not really complicated I've put it in a box   just because it's easier there is a shunt that 
the negative goes to it's pretty simple device and I can easily measure how many milliampers and 
what what's the the device but simply this whole   board here I have just two fuses and I can measure 
and calculate how much if it's a sunny day or if   it's a cloudy day how much watts has the panel 
produced that's it it's a bit more complicated   but it it's not actually that complicated so 
one might ask why are you going to all this   effort you connect the solar panel it charges 
the car battery keeps it topped up it's all   good but it's not quite like that if you have a 
charge controller and this is always connected   to the car battery it draws a bit of energy this 
consumes 35 milliamperes or 35 milliampere hours   so 35 milliamperes per hour when it's overnight 
or there is no sunshine or the solar panel is   not producing anything well this is during the 
night or it just overcast raining this constantly   draws 35 mAh so the question is 
is the Sun gonna be enough if this is gonna   draw too much power and then your car battery get 
drained so that's why I'm doing this with 20 days   to try to see if the sun will be enough I'll 
be also recording how much milliampere hours   is produced during the day so the measuring 
device just measures how much the solar panel   produces is before everything else going to 
the to the battery I could have put it after   the solar panel to measure how much is going into 
the battery but I just wanted to see how much the   solar panel is producing so I'll not gonna show 
all the measurements I'll have results at the end   of the video because it just will take too much 
time and you're just looking at at measurements   I'll only record the first measurement then 
leaving it for 20 days and then record how   much the battery has been drained let's first 
charge it with an Noco Genius 5 it's currently   on standby so press it on mode for 12 volts so 
it'll go 25 50 75 and 100% once this is solid green   I'll disconnect it so I'll leave it till the next 
day to measure how much is the starting point   so here is car battery yesterday today is 14th 
at five o'clock today it's also five o'clock   I left it 24 hours after charging it now let's 
measure with Foxwell bt100 Pro to see what the current   state of health is of that battery and then 
I'll leave it for two weeks positive negative 12.92 volts battery test out the vehicle regular 
let's this is 760en I'll do 760 CCA and 760 en   so let's first start with the CCA 700 and 
60.

Let's see what the state of health is   measured 654 out of 760 CCA so it says 
good battery that's actually quite good   72% state of health 4.8 Milli ohm resistance 
let's do the same with the en the 760. 760 EN so it says replace battery of course 599 
EN out of 760, 66 percent 4.81 milliohms   so now I'll leave it two weeks and take a 
measurement again after two weeks and this   will stay at home in house roughly let's say 
20 degrees all around not during the night   but it won't be under harsh conditions so 
let's see how low this will be in two weeks   so it has been exactly 20 days since I left 
this battery here at my house so let's see   what's the condition of the battery after 20 days 
sitting without doing anything my Foxwell bt100 let's see 12.83 volts battery test out of the vehicle   regular I'll first do the CCA at 760 
EN I'll do first 760 CCA 760 testing and currently it says replace battery 
630 CCA out of 760 so it has dropped   quite a bit not that much you can see the 
previous numbers here 70% state of health   4.98 milliohms resistance so the resistance 
has increased so let's see as well the en so en 760 EN of course it will say 
replace the battery 580 en out of 760.   64% state of health and 4.95 milliohm resistance   so obviously the battery has dropped a bit with 
the voltage and state of health so now first thing   is to charge it again with the Noco Genius 
5 charger currently it's five o'clock and   the same time 20 days later I'll charge it 
leave it for 24 hours and then test it again   this whole experiment started 13th of May 2022 
and I spent two and a half months now it's 24th   of July to do this experiment and this is all 
the data that I've gathered one is measuring   the car battery before and after after charging 
and so on to have a Baseline and to see how much   charge can you keep the car battery charged 
using this 10 watt solar panel so first of   all because before showing the result whether it 
has worked or not let me show you the difference   between the west and Southeast I couldn't have 
a South because my house is positioned Southeast   I also positioned the solar panel behind the 
glass in the house so this was to simulate the   glass behind the car in your vehicle in your 
car so first of all this is exactly if you   say this is exactly 20 days and this is also 
exactly 20 days both on Southeast and west   so for the West I had there were quite a few 
rainy days so there were four rainy days so   these here there are four rainy days and in the south 
west Southeast not Southwest there were no    rainy days unfortunately I cannot control the 
weather so that's how it is overall they were more   cloudy days in the Southeast as compared to the 
west but there were four rainy days overall I got   9310 milliampere hours cumulative that's overall 
9.3 ampere ampere hours from the west and 10.7   ampere hours from the southeast from this 10 watt 
solar panel this is the same thing whether   you do it hours worked so how many hours this my 
device that was measuring the milliampere hours   and amperes and and Watts there were 124 hours 
kind of cumulative for the West 147 hours from   the southeast of course there were there would be 
more because there were a few rainy days and it   doesn't measure that this device doesn't measure 
if the milliampere hours it's it's below 20   milliamperes so in other words that's why this is 
this is fewer, overall watt hours per day how many   watts per day watt hours per day it's 132 and 
146 from the south east as compared to the West   I mean if there were a few more sunny days or 
cloudy days in the west probably they would   be roughly about the same so I've also compared 
here average milliampere hours for the sunny days   from the West which is 622 milliampere hours and 
it's a 651 milliampere hours when there's sunny   days from the southeast so in other words it's 
a bit more you get a bit more milliampere hours   from the West as compared to the to the to the 
southeast on the cloudy on the cloudy days on   the west I mean I put them cloudy sometimes it's 
a bit more Cloud sometimes a bit less cloudy I   mean I I should have probably written it a bit 
more granular uh it's 254 milliampere hours on   a cloudy day on the west and roughly about 419 
milliampere hours on the Southeast there were   no rainy days so if you see here there were no 
rainy days from the from the southeast so now the   actual results so these are my measurements let me 
move this away this is how many cold cranking amps   after the first charge then I waited 20 days and 
then measured again then second charge I waited 24   hours to measure it then put it to the west then 
I measured it again and put to the southeast so   this is after the first charge 24 hours after 
the Noco Genius 5 charge and and I got 654 cold   cranking amps then I waited 20 days and I got 630 
cold cranking amps so it it dropped substantially   this is about well not substantially but it 
dropped about four percent then I charged it   again after these 20 days and I got 661 this is 
about the same and then after 20 days using the   solar panel facing west I got 638 cold cranking 
amps so one could say well yeah this is more than   630 but overall this drop this is four percent 
drop this is also four percent drop so in other   words the solar panel facing west doesn't really 
do that much to the battery doesn't really keep   it topped up if you just leave it on its own 
maybe the number of rainy days affected that   I don't know I mean I have to probably do this 
for whole year in order kind of to get average   data but then that's quite a long this will be 
like three years test then I charge it again   and left it the solar panel to the battery on 
this facing Southeast behind the glass in in my   living room just kind of the simulate the shield 
in your car so I charged it and it was 646 so it's   a bit less than 654 and 661 well maybe I kept it 
a bit longer than 24 hours there is a I charge it   then leave it for 24 hours maybe I kept it a bit 
longer not too sure so it dropped a bit more so I   didn't really quite charge it but then keeping 
it on the Southeast it actually increased from   the 646 cold cranking amps it increased to 650 so 
the southeast actually it worked really well so   it doesn't matter if you compare it to the initial 
charge 646 cold cranking amps this is a lot more   the 638 and 630 and it's fairly close to 654 the 
initial charge this is 650 just 4 less than 654.   so what I'm trying to say that it does work having 
a solar panel connected to your car battery this   10 watts solar panel my kit with a solar charge 
controller with a pwm solar charge controller   but you need proper sunshine and this is May June 
and July months in the UK so I suspect that during   the winter this might not work that well it's 
still better than nothing of course but the solar   charge controller might drain a bit the battery 
if there is a lot more rainy days so you have to   make sure that your solar panel is facing south 
or Southeast so this is it it does work but you   have to be careful where you position your solar 
panel thank you very much indeed let me know this   took two and a half months a lot of work a lot of 
editing thank you very much indeed for watching if   you have any comments let me know in the comment 
section on my video thank you very much indeed

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